tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1564958057737541664.post4123610994537663501..comments2024-02-14T17:11:22.168-08:00Comments on On Bicycles, and.... what else is there?: Golden Gate Park Bicycle Lane Proposalsdjconnelhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01484858820878605035noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1564958057737541664.post-68004177121227658022011-07-11T20:13:37.427-07:002011-07-11T20:13:37.427-07:00Hmmm. Off the top of my head I can't remember ...Hmmm. Off the top of my head I can't remember 2-way bike lanes on one side of two lane roads except for the really wide and multilane roads where there might be a divider in the middle (so when you cross it's rather like crossing two adjoining one-way streets). I agree that if it were a normal "one driving lane in each direction" road it would take non-standard behavior on the part of the cyclist. <br /><br />Paris has so many one-way streets that I initially thought the contra sens bike lanes were just a way to acknowledge and regularize how many cyclists behave anyway. This is true about many European cities where no two roads come in at right angles and you can never just "go around the block."Roberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08336037087994407943noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1564958057737541664.post-8874717827424799962011-07-09T20:01:30.112-07:002011-07-09T20:01:30.112-07:00Thanks for that comment...
In San Francisco there...Thanks for that comment...<br /><br />In San Francisco there are two "nonstandard" bike lanes: (1) bike lanes on the right facing one-way vehicular traffic. This is just a 2-way road where one way is cyclist-only. It works fine since the car traffic on these few roads is very light. (2) a bike lane on the left side of a one-way street. Not so great for cyclists who want to turn right, but not terrible. It's on a road where a path through a park starts on the left, and this orientation prevents cyclists from needing to cross the street to reach the popular path.<br /><br />But with 2-way on one side of the road, I'd be worried about cyclists turning right from the counter-flow lane. They'd need to cross two lanes of vehicular traffic. Is this a problem in Paris?djconnelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01484858820878605035noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1564958057737541664.post-54840305123850376222011-07-09T11:49:26.941-07:002011-07-09T11:49:26.941-07:00Paris has begun instituting "contra sens"...Paris has begun instituting "contra sens" bike lanes, i.e., bike lanes in which the direction of travel goes counter to the direction of cars. They're not unusual in the Netherlands. First time I saw one (on my one way street) I thought it was a brain dead disaster waiting to happen but they can actually work -- for example, one of the main dangers of riding in Paris is the right hook and contra sens lanes eliminate that particular problem. OTOH, Paris also has a bunch of bike lanes between the sidewalk and the parking lane and they're a disaster. Car passengers exit cars and pedestrians cross the lane without looking for cyclists.Roberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08336037087994407943noreply@blogger.com